Subject	What are you using to tune timing? Timing is power not
Posted by	MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) on December 19, 2003 at 6:25 PM
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In Reply To	Properly running car, tuning and most importantly: NA rear posted by SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) on December 19, 2003 at 06:10 PM
Message	just he a/f ratio. You have to be able to tune both fuel and timing.
Follow Ups	My first impression with Ginn GMS chip upgrade - HakenTT 12:55:27 12/19/03 Thank you for the subjective opinion. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 12:59:52 12/19/03 Is there factual opinion? (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:52:02 12/19/03 nope, the damn camera angle is bad (n/m) - genic 13:54:35 12/19/03 LOL (n/m) - Spee 16:52:10 12/19/03 Thought you would find that funny :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:53:54 12/19/03 ..... (n/m) - Spee 17:00:06 12/19/03 You're the forum zit. Show up like a pimple on an - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:07:08 12/19/03 thats a new one...never been called that before - Spee 17:27:18 12/19/03 Hard to compare, you were running a stock ECU with the CAS - Chip(GMS Racing) 13:05:35 12/19/03 Doesn't the ecu have to learn ? I know it takes my - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:08:27 12/19/03 Yes, that too. I wish people would go about things in - Chip(GMS Racing) 13:10:36 12/19/03 LOL, NO, it doesn't have to learn for the condition - AshsZ 13:14:32 12/19/03 Layman's terms for people like me please? - infamouseb (NYC) 13:18:36 12/19/03 WOT == open loop == doesn't use learned values (n/m) - J.R. (phx) 13:57:06 12/19/03 But it would affect the low load operation. - Chip(GMS Racing) 13:41:44 12/19/03 He complained about idle in addition to lack of WOT power. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 14:30:38 12/19/03 umm...what about the "gamma correction factor" - aliaZ 14:53:48 12/19/03 That's where your car turn's green under boost like - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:48:56 12/19/03 hmmm...he's ignoring me again (n/m) - aliaZ 17:23:27 12/19/03 You aren't the only one. (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:05:56 12/19/03 Pwned by /\ (n/m) - BooZted 13:22:27 12/19/03 Let's practice some maturity please. - Kenny 14 psi 13:34:20 12/19/03 this guy's like a disease to the forum (n/m) - ZEngineer 13:38:59 12/19/03 that's why he keeps changing his name - the_real_dummy 13:49:07 12/19/03 strong 2nd. (n/m) - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 13:49:27 12/19/03 If he is selling ECUs he should know every aspect of their - down5hift 13:59:32 12/19/03 Chip has 11 second 122mph stock turbo Z. He knows - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:02:05 12/19/03 I disagree - he is a good driver with a well configured car. - AshsZ 15:20:18 12/19/03 lol (n/m) - genic 15:21:53 12/19/03 Isn't tuning part of configuring? 122mph is nothing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:41:50 12/19/03 123, but who is counting? (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:50:33 12/19/03 I'd like to see your best MPH on street tires. (n/m) - AshsZ 16:39:58 12/19/03 I'd like to see you beat Chip's car using a stock turbo Z... - aliaZ 17:22:41 12/19/03 I'd like to see what Chip's car would do if I tuned it. :) (n/m) - AshsZ 17:43:16 12/19/03 wouldn't it be ironic if it went slower - aliaZ 17:47:43 12/19/03 I want to see it on street tires. (n/m) - AshsZ 17:51:58 12/19/03 street tires are for the street, not drag racing. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 17:54:58 12/19/03 Here we go again, who's got a bigger stick and who has more - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:04:52 12/19/03 What would that prove? - aliaZ 20:11:23 12/19/03 It will prove what he can run on street tires. - AshsZ 13:02:36 12/20/03 Why dont you try running yours with MT ET streets? - T0M 14:07:51 12/20/03 the driver has alot to do with running at the track, - speedr300z (ATL) 22:48:19 12/19/03 you're missing the point - aliaZ 10:15:14 12/20/03 Tuning is, but its nowhere close to the main reasons - AshsZ 16:17:13 12/19/03 No broken trannies. 2 broken axles,but they are NA axles - Chip(GMS Racing) 17:42:13 12/19/03 I like your New Years Resloutions Chip, Now if we could just - speedr300z (ATL) 22:51:19 12/19/03 Properly running car, tuning and most importantly: NA rear - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:10:08 12/19/03 What are you using to tune timing? Timing is power not - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:25:37 12/19/03 That's just my point - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:42:31 12/19/03 I know what it should be doing, if HakenTT tells me that it - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:05:20 12/19/03 All right, your out. (n/m) - nixit 14:51:22 12/19/03 Damn it. - SactoTodd 15:11:56 12/19/03 No, you don't understand. - nixit 15:21:38 12/19/03 5 minutes quiet time for you. (n/m) - BooZted 15:41:52 12/19/03 Maybe you should take that advise sometime - kruZing 16:12:32 12/19/03 When I istalled your ECU I have set timing @ 15 - HakenTT 13:52:09 12/19/03 Did you set your CAS back to 15 degrees BTDC? (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 13:50:40 12/19/03 He's probably going into safety boost with his - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:54:31 12/19/03 Yes. I even tryed 17btdc. - HakenTT 13:55:41 12/19/03 check for error codes (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:59:13 12/19/03 Email me what the Nprobe tells you that it is doing - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:07:17 12/19/03 Running 17 psi of boost on pump 91 gas, stock injectors - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:49:20 12/19/03 2nd. I only ran 16-16.5 on 93 octain gas while I sitll had - [AK]Zip 15:23:37 12/19/03 If that indeed turns out to be the truth, it should run bad - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:30:07 12/19/03 I could not get the hold of nprobe today (n/m) - HakenTT 16:40:53 12/19/03 Here's a new idea, email or call Chip about his chip - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:53:34 12/19/03 chip's chip :D (n/m) - mongoozTT 23:02:34 12/19/03 i don't see what PSI you are running.... (n/m) - Halo Z 15:03:32 12/19/03 I know he runs that high of boost if you read his past email (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:47:35 12/19/03
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